[Cote Dazur]

Practice for me is in order to bring my best racing to the group, I am not naturally fast, I need to practice to be consistent, if I don't I will be off pace, which is not fun for anyone.
I know the 3 tracks, but every different car and different set up will need me to adapt, contrary to some it takes me time.
Since I will not enjoy racing 3 different tracks back to back, without being ready, please count me out.

[DIMAVIKA]

had the most awesome and closest finish with Dima tonight, he won by about 0.001s:

That was a blast! And the finish in the next race was exciting as well!

[mad-rooky]

in

[Jonah Hax]

out

[Sven]

Practice for me is in order to bring my best racing to the group, I am not naturally fast, I need to practice to be consistent, if I don't I will be off pace, which is not fun for anyone.
I know the 3 tracks, but every different car and different set up will need me to adapt, contrary to some it takes me time.
Since I will not enjoy racing 3 different tracks back to back, without being ready, please count me out.

Thanks for posting. 

I have to be honest with you that I can't see you practicing 4 different tracks and then keeping the all of consistency gained from that during all qualifying and racing sessions. The ability to adapt is even more required in racing situations; you might have to take different lines and might not be able to see the apex or your braking reference due to other cars around you, while the beautiful variations in (track) temperatures and grip also make for (slight) differences.

I don't think anyone will be at the absolute top level of their skill for events like this, and that's exactly the point. It's a friendly club event that doesn't require much, or any, practice. 

Turn up, race, enjoy, laugh. Don't overthink it.

I'd still like to see you racing tonight, but it's of course up to you

[offcorsa]

Sven, I can understand your view on the practice part. and also can see where Cote Dazur is coming from.  Practice for me is mostly for the protection of other drivers in the race!  the better I can control the car the less chance there is for me to be wildly all over the track getting to grips with the car.  especially with a fixed setup.  I just don't feel comfortable running closely with other racers,  and after all, isn't that why we're here?
having said all that it kinda seems like a catch 22, in more ways than 1.  more practice means everyone else is also faster,  bad news for me.  In an ideal world we could all have the cosy here to have fun attitude AND have some practice time invested.  it is nice to be able to run closely and know the guy behind isn't gonna miss his brake point because he's not comfortable enough yet with the car/track combo.  That being said, the good racers are the ones who will take into account the lack of familiarity and give just that extra couple feet clearance.  they can also come to "grips" with a car in only a few laps.   the moral I think is be safe first . then be fast.   some reach "fast" quicker than others.   some of us need a few more laps.

I hope my rambling post here makes sense to you guys.

sooooo.... is the combo gonna be up on the server today?  I missed getting on when it was up earlier.

[mad-rooky]

I hope my rambling post here makes sense to you guys.

Yes i have pretty much the same opinion. But i also understand what Sven wants. I would say everyone is responsible for himself to decide if he needs more practice or not if it turns not into hotlapping before the actual event. I do it like that, the more i know the car/track the less practice i do. Clean close racing is not really possible if you dont know what to do on the track.

[Sven]

First of all, don't get me wrong that I think that I want you to get on the track without knowing it or drive a car you're absolutely unfamiliar with. That's not the case. That aside, I'm quite sure anyone can do some offline practice and get a decent amount of laps in a comparable car.

If it's a fixed setup, you of course like to find out if it's a setup you can cope with, therefore I will put up a server with the car and the actual setup used in the races.

But I disagree with a practice server being up being an improvement of overall race craft, unless you run with (a lot of) people with the same pace, which is often not the case. On a practice server you're generally either qualifying (running by yourself) or racing with small numbers (in public servers this often means you're also running by yourself after a lap).

If you want to improve your race craft, run races with the AI in a 15+ car field with the same cars, setting the difficulty to the same pace as yourself (or lower, if you still make human mistakes ), or get into training with some of the faster drivers who deliberately hold you up, which I have no doubt can also be arranged here. I provide free training/on board sessions, and I know of some other fast guys here that do if you're nice.

The race craft also, and in my opinion mostly, comes from respecting your opponents and being able to give instead of taking right away.  If a battle lasts for a few laps, you'll become familiar with the braking points of your opponent and you'll be used to not seeing the apex, and you might just find a way to force/lure your opponent into a mistake.

If you have a lot of problems with finding your braking points then you need to start looking into your brake references, settings like your FOV and the way you treat corners (sometimes braking slower, in multiply instances will still get you the same results when chasing). And if you haven't, get rid of that fucking suggested braking line if you still use it. It's trash and more often makes you "that guy" in close racing.

I hope all above makes sense, but I'm open to other opinions

[edtheshed]

maybe

[DIMAVIKA]

100% agree with offcorsa, mad-rooky and Sven on this. Having been with Cosy for two seasons now, I've learned that practice and Race-day are very different beasts. The two things you should focus on is learning the track, in any car that is similar in pace, and trying out the fixed setup to see how you need to adapt to it.

Running in a pack takes finnes, not necessarily speed. I'm still trying to get better at this myself through trial-and-error.

My two-cents on this topic.

[mr_urlauber]

I will do livestreaming again:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjAbLlQDCCo

[Mr Chip]

Sorry guys I'm going to have to pull out.

Moved into new offices today and I'm shattered.

Will try and have a look at Urlauber's streak - have fun guys!

[Bossy]

in

[Jamiri]

IN

[Sven]

Brilliant racing most of the time, thanks for racing once more!

[mad-rooky]

Yeah after 4 weeks not racing this was a nice one especially on Nürburgring GP. The uncosyness of the random guys who pushed me off the track at the beginning and my own mistake made it possible to have a great battle with Sven and Bossy. I lost the car totally in last lap second last corner trying overtaking Bossy and did not finish. And im totally happy with it.
On redbull ring i had two contacts, one to Dima and one to Bossy and both where crashing then. I dont know if i was pushing too hard in this moments. I did not see them properly but i tried to let enough space and one time i was beside the track. Sometimes its very hard to be fast and cosy at the same time...^^ But this is one point why i dont like this track, the first two corners invites for overtaking but its very difficult not to hit each other. Its only good for F1 Races where you need such places that the stupid aero concept gets some "spectacular" KERS and DRS overtakings... BS...
The car felt very well to me, thanks to Sven for a very good balanced setup. See you all in a few weeks hopefully at the start to the new season.